murdoch. yes, i did start out in tabloid newspapers. they were the only people -- we all aspire to be murdoch papers. no voicemail, no cell phones. >> just pings, and woolie mammoths. >> quills, but that was a scandal -- that is a scandal, because it's still rolling, that takes in power, corruption at the highest level through law enforcement. the idea that anyone in the public eye is okay to spy on, whether the public eye is on a victim of murder or they're just famous, i think it was a moment when the otherwise, you know, quiet majority, the people who buy these things every day, and may find it voyeuristic and titillating, where they said, you know what? we actually have some values and standards, and it's about time it stopped. big scandal. >> michael? >> fast and furious for me was the scandal that i think will have some legs going into 2012, simply because it speaking to a couple things, one, what the government is willing to do without thinking, thinking it through. we see that on debt